Posts by Deputy Dog

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Deception in the Greatest Man Book

by truthseeker in

i was browsing channelc.org and came across this.

how would one follow jehovah?

do the will of the organization and you would be doing jehovah?s will.

Deputy Dog

truthseeker

You know I had never really realized that they were always pointing away from Christ to Jehovah as the main source of salvation. But it is true the sure do. Never is it clearly mentioned that one must approach Christ to reach Jehovah in the text. Though the book is about Jesus Christ he is given second position, as only a teacher and follower of God.
Curious that I did not realize that before.

They don't really point to Jehovah either. They point to the org, no man can come to the Father except through the org.

D Dog

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Freedom to Choose God

by UnDisfellowshipped in

come to the wedding.

' for i say to you that god is able to raise up children to abraham from these stones.

Deputy Dog

Also, let's take a look at Acts Chapter 8: Acts 8:9-15: But there was a certain man called Simon, who previously practiced sorcery in the city and astonished the people of Samaria, claiming that he was someone great, to whom they all gave heed, from the least to the greatest, saying, "This man is the great power of God." And they heeded him because he had astonished them with his sorceries for a long time. But when they believed Philip as he preached the things concerning the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ, both men and women were baptized. Then Simon himself also believed; and when he was baptized he continued with Philip, and was amazed, seeing the miracles and signs which were done. Now when the apostles who were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent Peter and John to them, who, when they had come down, prayed for them that they might receive the Holy Spirit. Notice that Simon clearly was enlightened with the truth when he saw the miracles, and it even says that Simon "believed" what he heard. But, was Simon Born Again? Acts 8:16-25: For as yet He had fallen upon none of them. They had only been baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. Then they laid hands on them, and they received the Holy Spirit. And when Simon saw that through the laying on of the apostles' hands the Holy Spirit was given, he offered them money, saying, "Give me this power also, that anyone on whom I lay hands may receive the Holy Spirit." But Peter said to him, "Your money perish with you, because you thought that the gift of God could be purchased with money! You have neither part nor portion in this matter, for your heart is not right in the sight of God. Repent therefore of this your wickedness, and pray God if perhaps the thought of your heart may be forgiven you. For I see that you are poisoned by bitterness and bound by iniquity." Then Simon answered and said, "Pray to the Lord for me, that none of the things which you have spoken may come upon me." So when they had testified and preached the word of the Lord, they returned to Jerusalem, preaching the gospel in many villages of the Samaritans. This shows clearly that even though Simon had been "enlightened" and had even "believed" the Gospel (but even the demons believe) and had been baptized, that he was not yet Born Again or saved, because he had not yet repented of his sins and was still "bound by iniquity."

I agree! Thanks for making my point. D Dog

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Freedom to Choose God

by UnDisfellowshipped in

come to the wedding.

' for i say to you that god is able to raise up children to abraham from these stones.

Deputy Dog

Undisfellowshipped

A little help for Acts 13

My Comments about Acts Chapter 13: 1: The Gospel was preached to "the Jews" first, and they could have believed, but instead they chose to reject the Gospel and to judge themselves as being unworthy of everlasting life. 2: To be honest, I am not yet sure what exactly Acts 13:48 means. I will continue to study and pray about that Verse.

The reason the Jews "chose to reject the Gospel " was because of Romans 11:8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day. D Dog

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Freedom to Choose God

by UnDisfellowshipped in

come to the wedding.

' for i say to you that god is able to raise up children to abraham from these stones.

Deputy Dog

Undisfellowshipped

You state in "My Comments on Ephesians Chapter 1:"

4: Ephesians Chapter 1 shows that people are NOT saved or sealed until AFTER they (1) hear the Gospel and (2) believe the Gospel and (3) receive the Holy Spirit into their hearts.

Where does it say: "that people are NOT saved or sealed until AFTER they... receive the Holy Spirit into their hearts." ? D Dog

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Freedom to Choose God

by UnDisfellowshipped in

come to the wedding.

' for i say to you that god is able to raise up children to abraham from these stones.

Deputy Dog

Undisfellowshipped According to Ephesians 1:5, are we predestined "unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself" by our will (or choice) or by Gods'? Also when you say:

"that The Father predestined Christians to be adopted through Jesus Christ as sons of God."

Are you saying that the Father predestines Christians generally or individually? You said:

"God leads people to repent, but they can still choose to reject God"

According to Romans 9:16-19 " So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy." are you saying that you can, or can not resist Gods' will? D Dog

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The Funeral of former President Ronald Reagan

by Celtic in

jw
friends

hows it going down there in the usa?

Deputy Dog

Bagder

What did Clinton do to change the world?

D Dog

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The WT and Freedom to choose Evil

by jst2laws in

the wt and freedom to choose evil

augustine taught that evil did not really exits, only love, and that evil is the lack of love.

but the wt society does not agree.

Deputy Dog

jst2laws

Why does creating evil or sin make God gilty of it?

D Dog

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Freedom to Choose God

by UnDisfellowshipped in

come to the wedding.

' for i say to you that god is able to raise up children to abraham from these stones.

Deputy Dog

Undisfellowshipped

You said,

Christians should not favor a certain Chapter (such as let's say, Romans Chapter 9) and then discount another Chapter (let's say 1st Timothy Chapter 2). Rather, they should study both Chapters which seem to contradict one another and then decide what the truth is.

We agree! So lets do just that. Can we agree that the primary teaching (context) of 1st Timothy 2 is, about Public worship, specifically verses 1-8 are about public prayer in worship and 9-15 are about women in public worship? If so, then what would you say, is the primary teaching or context of Romans 9:1-29?

D Dog

Hope your feeling better!

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Predestination and Dubs

by Farkel in

dubs are one of a few unique religions that sprung up from the second adventist movement in the 1800's.

they are unique in that they believe in "greater fulfillments" of prophecies recorded in the bible.

they believe that bible characters and bible groups foreshadowed their equivalent "classes" of people in modern days.

Deputy Dog

Farkel

Your right, the JWs have a problem. But I think Socrates has a problem.

There was no "dilemma", by the way. Either "right" comes from God, or God is subject to an outside thing called "right". If the latter is true, God is not omipotent. If the former is true, God is arbitary and
capricious. This is the sum total argument that Socrates stated with that young buck as related in Plato's Dialogues.

If the former is true, how do you know God is arbitrary and
capricious? Was Socrates smart enough to make that judgment? Could Socrates see and understand from Gods' prospective? At the end of time we may all agree that God was brilliant, holy, and just. At best he is going to have to wait till the end of time to make that judgment. D Dog

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Freedom to Choose God

by UnDisfellowshipped in

come to the wedding.

' for i say to you that god is able to raise up children to abraham from these stones.

Deputy Dog

Undisfellowshipped You asked,

Why would Paul say that we should pray and make intercessions for men who were destined for Hell with no chance of being saved? That does not make a lot of sense to me.

I believe all humans that ever lived, have received Gods common grace. To have life at all, is a blessing (or grace) from God, and so are all the blessings of this life. None of which anyone deserves. But, only His children receive Gods' uncommon (or special) grace. This would be eternal life, with Him and the blessings that go with it. How should we, who are his children, who have received his uncommon grace, live among other people? We do not know who God has chosen or who he will choose. Should we withhold grace, from people who may not receive it after this life? As we live among men, we should demonstrate Gods' love and grace, because it may be the only grace they receive. In their condemnation they will see that they received Gods' love and grace many times, and denied its source. Paul shared your love for the lost, and he felt your pain, t his is why Paul was so heavy hearted in Romans 9:2-5 " That I have great heaviness and continual sorrow in my heart. For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh: Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God , and the promises; Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came , who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen." Paul knew that they were not all chosen, look at verse 6 "Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:" Paul goes on to teach that Jews are just like everyone else, not everyone is a child of God. If you go on to read the rest of the chapter in that light, it takes on a new meaning for me. I hope this makes some sense to you. Take care of that cold! D Dog